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T-398-90
Chang-Jie Chen (Applicant) v.
Minister of Employment and Immigration and Secretary of State for External Affairs (Respond- ents)
INDEXED AS: CHEN V. CANADA (MINISTER OF EMPLOYMENT AND IMMIGRATION) (T.D.)
Trial Division, Strayer J.—Toronto, April 23; Ottawa, May 10, 1991.
Immigration — Application for permanent residence as independent immigrant — Sufficient assessment units awarded
— Completion of process delayed Applicant sending immi gration officer Christmas gift of money — Called in for interview with different official — Not told at outset bribery reason therefor — Admitting wrongdoing after initial denial — Application denied (I) for lying (2) as units awarded not
reflecting establishment chances Decision quashed by cer- tiorari — Denial of fairness — Purpose of Act, s. 19(2)(d)
explained — Regulations, s. /1(3) interpreted Criteria
related to immigrant's ability to be self-sufficient Visa
officer not to ignore units awarded, add to s. 19 crimes excluding applicants.
Judicial review Prerogative writs Certiorari Denial
of independent immigrant's permanent residence application
— Awarded sufficient assessment units, provisionally accepted
— Completion of process prolonged Applicant sending
immigration officer Christmas gift Called in for interview
with different official Not told at outset of concern about
bribery — Admitting wrongdoing after initial denial — Application denied for lying to officer — Decision quashed for
denial of fairness Not given adequate opportunity to
explain conduct Officer exceeding discretion under Regula
tions Not to disregard units awarded, reject immigrant for
possibly having committed offences not found in Act s. 19.
This was an application for certiorari to quash the refusal by an immigration officer to issue a visa for permanent residence and for mandamus requiring the respondents to consider and process the application in accordance with law. The applicant, a microbiology technologist and citizen of the People's Republic of China, applied to the Canadian Consulate General in New York for permanent residence in Canada as an independent immigrant. He was interviewed in September 1987 by an Immigration Programme Officer and awarded 73 units of assessment — enough for a permanent residence visa under
subparagraph 9(1)(b)(î) of the Immigration Regulations. He was later informed by a letter dated July 12, 1988 that he and his wife had been provisionally accepted as immigrants, but they would have to wait a few months for security clearance. In December, 1988, applicant sent the immigration officer a Christmas card in which $500. was enclosed. When the latter notified her superior of this, applicant was called in for an interview with a different immigration official. The officer who conducted this interview did not immediately address the sub ject of the apparent bribe. When asked if he had given any gifts to the other officer, the applicant at first denied it but eventual ly admitted his wrongdoing. His application was refused on two grounds: (I) for having lied to an immigration officer, contrary to subsection 9(3) of the Immigration Act, thus rendering him inadmissible under paragraph I 9(2)(d) of the Act, and (2) that the units awarded did not reflect applicant's chances of becom ing established in Canada (subsection 11(3) of the Regula tions).
The issues were whether the immigration officer had dis charged the duty of fairness and whether his decision was based on reasons expressly or impliedly authorized by the Act and Regulations.
Held, the application should be allowed.
The immigration officer's decision had to be quashed for a denial of fairness. Applicant should have been told, at the outset, the reason for the second interview: the concern over the apparent attempt to bribe. It was not just an ordinary interview but the review of an earlier, favourable assessment resulting in applicant being "provisionally accepted". Fairness required that the officer give the applicant every opportunity to explain his conduct. This duty had not been fulfilled.
If the applicant lied concerning his gift to the immigration officer, that did not automatically render him inadmissible. Paragraph 19(2)(d) speaks in the present tense and refers to the moment when the final decision as to admissibility is made, not to prior events. The sole purpose of the paragraph is to render inadmissible those who do not meet the conditions of admissibility set out in the Act.
Answering the question as to whether the discretion given by subsection 11(3) of the Regulations had been properly exer cised necessitated the interpretation of that provision. It was inconceivable that it gave a visa officer an unlimited mandate to decide who to let in. The factors identified in the Regulations were related to the immigrant's ability to be economically sustained other than by the state. Even the criteria of "personal suitability" were primarily related to the ability to be self-sus taining. Considering this emphasis on economic factors, it could not have been intended that, in exercising his discretion, a visa officer might ignore units of assessment and reject an immi grant for essentially non-economic reasons. The "good reasons" mentioned in the subsection had to be such as to permit him to conclude that the immigrant could not become established in the economic sense. If an immigrant was to be excluded as immoral, for misconduct or for having a potential for criminal- ity or sedition, that was to be accomplished by the section 19
process, not by the exercise of a visa officer's subsection 11(3) discretion. Section 19 excludes those who have committed, or are likely to commit, certain serious crimes. The official had rejected applicant in that he may have committed offences against the Immigration Act and the Criminal Code. Thus the visa officer erred, for it was open to him neither to add to the statutorily prohibited categories of malefactors nor to make determinations of guilt.
STATUTES AND REGULATIONS JUDICIALLY CONSIDERED
Criminal Code, R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46, s. l21(1)(a)(i). Federal Court Rules, C.R.C., c. 663, R. 324.
Immigration Act, R.S.C., 1985, c. 1-2, ss. 9(3), 19(1)(a),(2)(d),I14(1)(a).
Immigration Regulations, 1978, SOR/78-172, ss. 8(1)(a) (as am. by SOR/85-l038, s. 3), 9(I)(b)(i) (as am. by SOR/83-675, s. 3; SOR/85-l038, s. 4), 11(3) (as am. by SOR/8l-461, s. I); Sch. I (as am., idem, s. 8).
CASES JUDICIALLY CONSIDERED
APPLIED:
Kang v. Minister of Employment and Immigration, [1981] 2 F.C. 807; (1981), 37 N.R. 551 (C.A.).
REFERRED TO:
Zeng v. Canada (Minister of Employment & Immigra tion) (1991), 12 1mm. L.R. (2d) 167 (F.C.A.); Uy v. Canada (Minister of Employment and Immigration), [1991] 2 F.C. 201; (1991), 12 1mm. L.R. (2d) 172 (C.A.).
COUNSEL:
Diane C. Smith for applicant. Lois Lehmann for respondents.
SOLICITORS:
Rotenberg & Martinello, Don Mills, Ontario, for applicant.
Deputy Attorney General of Canada for respondents.
The following are the reasons for order ren dered in English by
STRAYER J.: Relief Requested
The applicant seeks certiorari to quash a deci sion made by an officer of the respondents and communicated to him in a letter of February 14, 1989 refusing his application for permanent resi dence in Canada. He also seeks mandamus requir ing the respondents to consider and process his application for permanent residence in accordance with the law and to determine if it would be contrary to law to grant landing to him.
Background Facts
The applicant is a citizen of the People's Repub lic of China. He worked in Canada from 1983 to 1985 as a microbiology technologist at McMaster University. He then moved to the United States working at the University of Illinois under some form of temporary visa. By letter from his Toronto lawyers dated July 27, 1987 he applied to the Canadian Consulate General in New York for permanent residence in Canada as an independent immigrant, stating his intended occupation to be Medical Laboratory Technologist. He was inter viewed at the Consulate on September 29, 1987 by Sara Trillo, an immigration programme officer. During the course of the interview she assessed him, as required by paragraph 8(1)(a) of the Immigration Regulations, 1978 [SOR/78-172 (as am. by SOR/85-1038, s. 3)], on the basis of the factors listed in Column I, Schedule I [as am. idem, s. 8] of the Regulations, awarding him 73 units. This was enough to satisfy the requirements under subparagraph 9(1)(b)(î) [as am. by SOR/ 83-675, s. 3; SOR/85-1038, s. 4] for the issue of a visa for permanent residence. She says that she indicated to him he had passed his interview and it would then be necessary for him, his wife, and his daughter (the latter being in China) to pass a medical test and a security check.
Thereafter some fifteen months elapsed in which very little progress was made. Medical clearances
were obtained for the applicant and his wife and ultimately for their daughter in China, the latter being achieved only after great difficulty and with some special efforts by Ms. Trillo. He was informed by a letter dated July 12, 1988 that he and his wife had been "provisionally accepted as immigrants". The letter went on to say:
If Canadian security and medical examination requirements are met, visas for permanent residence in Canada will be issued
However when he and his solicitor both enquired of Ms. Trillo in October, 1988 as to what was happening she advised them that there still remained the "background" or security clearance and that this would take "a few months". The applicant was becoming more anxious as his visa permitting him to work in the United States expired in September, 1988. On two occasions in correspondence he offered to pay any "costs or fees" in order to expedite the matter. On or about December 2, 1988 he sent a Christmas card to Ms. Trillo with a note thanking her for her efforts. Enclosed in the Christmas card was the sum of (U.S.) $500. Ms. Trillo immediately brought this to the attention of her superior, Mr. R. A. Nauman, Program Manager, Social Affairs, in charge of immigration at the Consulate. The matter was then put in the hands of Howard M. Spunt, Consul (Immigration) at whose direction the applicant was asked to come to the Consulate for an interview on December 29, 1988.
Without going into all the factual disputes over this interview, it appears to me that Mr. Spunt did not either in the notification to Mr. Chen nor in the opening segment of the interview indicate that his primary concern was the apparent bribe which the applicant had offered to Ms. Trillo nor did he even indicate that he knew of the receipt of the money by Ms. Trillo. He reviewed Mr. Chen's application and reassessed it with results similar to those achieved by Ms. Trillo. In particular he awarded the applicant 7 out of 10 points, just as Ms. Trillo had done, under the category of "Per- sonal Suitability", being Item 9 in Column I of Schedule I of the Regulations. He gradually got into the subject of the apparent bribe, asking the
applicant if he had given any gifts to Ms. Trillo or if he had misplaced any funds recently. The appli cant at first denied any such thing but eventually admitted that he had sent the money to Ms. Trillo. He explained that this was an oriental custom to give gifts during the holiday season to special friends. He said that he and his wife had much appreciated the efforts Ms. Trillo had made on their behalf. (Since that time he has also suggested that he had given the money so that if there were any special costs involved in expediting the matter, for example through the use of long distance tele phone or telex, the money could be used for that purpose.) Later in the interview he apologized for what he then recognized as his wrongful behavi our. The money was returned to him and he signed a receipt for it. At the end of the interview he was told by Mr. Spunt that his application would be reviewed in the light of this interview.
On January 26, 1989 Mr. Spunt wrote a memo randum to Mr. Nauman purportedly to seek the approval of Mr. Nauman, as Senior Immigration Officer, for the exercise under subsection 11(3) [as am. by SOR/81-461, s. 1] of the Immigration Regulations, 1978 of the special discretion of refusal to issue an immigrant visa to an applicant even though he has obtained the necessary units of assessment required by section 9 of the Regula tions. Such approval must be sought in writing in accordance with subsection 11(3). Mr. Nauman endorsed this memo the same day with the words "I agree" and gave instructions for a suitable refusal letter to be drafted. Subsequently on Feb- ruary 14, 1989 the refusal letter was sent and it is the decision embodied in that letter which the applicant seeks to have quashed in the present proceedings. As I understand that letter, it involves a refusal of permanent residence for essentially two reasons: first, that the applicant had lied to an immigration officer contrary to subsection 9(3) of the Act [Immigration Act, R.S.C., 1985, c. I-21 and that this meant that he had not complied with a requirement of the Act and was therefore inad missible pursuant to paragraph 19(2)(d) of the Act; and second, that Mr. Spunt was exercising his discretion under subsection 11(3) of the Regula tions to refuse Mr. Chen's application even though the latter had been awarded the required number
of units of assessment because, in the words of subsection 11(3):
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(3) ... there are good reasons why the number of units of assessment awarded do not reflect the chances of the [appli- cant] ... of becoming successfully established in Canada ....
It is worth noting in passing the potential for frustration and even desperation on the part of applicants for permanent residence arising out of a process such as this. Although the applicant was successfully interviewed and tentatively approved in accordance with the unit assessment on Septem- ber 27, 1987, the necessary security clearance for him and his family was not ultimately received by the Consulate until May 9, 1989. In the meantime the applicant, his wife, and his daughter had all obtained medical clearances which, through the passage of time, had expired on October 2, 1988 (in the case of the applicant and his wife) and on March 4, 1989 (in the case of the daughter in China). In the meantime also the applicant was faced with potential difficulties in the United States, his visa having expired there in September, 1988, a year after he was first interviewed for permanent residence in Canada. This may help to explain Mr. Chen's conduct, even if it does not excuse it.
I will set out any other pertinent facts as they appear relevant to my conclusions. This applica tion was argued in part together with that of Parmjit Singh Mangat, T-3161-90 [Mangat v. Canada (Minister of Employment & Immigra tion), not yet reported] and some of the reasons herein will also apply in that case.
Conclusions
I have concluded that the decision of Mr. Spunt set out in the letter of February 14, 1989, must be quashed for several reasons.
First, there was a denial of fairness. I accept, as argued by the respondents, that this was an administrative process only and that it was open to one visa officer, Mr. Spunt, to review an applica tion originally processed by another visa officer, in order to reach a final conclusion. It is obvious that with an organization as large as the Employment
and Immigration Commission, with retirements and rotation of officers at particular posts, an application which is initially considered by one officer may be the subject of a later final decision by another officer, taking into account new infor mation or changed circumstances. I also accept that it is not for the Court to sit on appeal from findings of fact made by a visa officer. But not withstanding all that, I believe that fairness required in these circumstances that the visa offi cer, at the time of the interview on December 29, 1988, tell the visa applicant at the outset the real purpose of the interview and the major concern of the officer, namely the alleged bribe. If one were carrying out an interview to probe general issues such as the existence of humanitarian grounds it might be appropriate to proceed by indirection, but this was more than an ordinary interview: it was the review of an earlier favourable assessment where the applicant had been "provisionally accepted" (in the language of Ms. Trillo's letter of July 12, 1988). That acceptance was now put in jeopardy by one event — the alleged bribe. The results of the meeting were potentially very impor tant for the applicant and he should have known what it was that concerned the visa officer and required explanation. He may well have wondered, for example, as the interview progressed, as to whether it was his conduct or that of Ms. Trillo which was being questioned. The visa officer, Mr. Spunt, may have as he says acted out of good motives to allow Mr. Chen to explain his conduct and not to "lose face". But when Mr. Spunt was possessed of a fact which, if unexplained, was in his mind sufficient to reject Mr. Chen's applica tion, it was incumbent on him to state that fact and give Mr. Chen every opportunity to explain in that fashion. Fairness required no less.
The remaining alleged causes of invalidity, although argued under various rubrics by counsel, really come down to the question of whether Mr. Spunt's decision was based on reasons which are
authorized by the Act and the Regulations either expressly or impliedly.
To answer this question I would begin by con sidering the first reason given by Mr. Spunt in the letter of February 14th refusing the application for permanent residence. As mentioned above, that reason is based on paragraph 19(2)(d) of the Immigration Act which provides that immigrants shall not be granted admission if they
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(d) ... cannot or do not fulfil or comply with any of the conditions or requirements of this Act or the regulations ....
The failure to comply relied upon by Mr. Spunt in the case of the applicant is found in subsection 9(3) of the Act which provides:
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(3) Every person shall answer truthfully all questions put to that person by a visa officer and shall produce such documenta tion as may be required by the visa officer for the purpose of establishing that his admission would not be contrary to this Act or the regulations.
Thus it was said that the applicant failed to comply with the Act because he did not answer truthfully when first asked about a gift sent to Ms. Trillo. It appears to me, however, that I am obliged to apply the rationale adopted by the Federal Court of Appeal in Kang v. Minister of Employment and Immigration' where that Court said that the requirements referred to in paragraph 19(2)(d) do not include the requirement to tell the truth as set out in subsection 9(3). The Court said that paragraph 19(2)(d) speaks in the present tense and refers to the moment when a final decision is made on admissibility and not to events prior to that. Further, and more importantly, the Court said that the sole purpose of paragraph 19(2)(d):
... is to render inadmissible all those who do not meet the conditions of admissibility prescribed by or under the Act.'
The Court of Appeal did not consider a false answer to a question to involve a condition of admissibility. It did recognize that there might be circumstances in which a false answer might justi fy refusal of admission, but such an answer did not
' [1981] 2 F.C. 807 (C.A.). 2 Ibid., at p. 810.
have the "automatic effect" of barring admission pursuant to paragraph 19(2)(d).
The other reason given by Mr. Spunt for his decision involved the exercise of his discretion under subsection 11(3) of the Regulations. This raises very difficult questions as to the proper interpretation of that subsection which provides as follows:
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(3) A visa officer may
(a) issue an immigrant visa to an immigrant who is not awarded the number of units of assessment required by section 9 or 10 or who does not meet the requirements of subsection (1) or (2), or
(b) refuse to issue an immigrant visa to an immigrant who is awarded the number of units of assessment required by section 9 or 10,
if, in his opinion, there are good reasons why the number of units of assessment awarded do not reflect the chances of the particular immigrant and his dependants of becoming success fully established in Canada and those reasons have, been submitted in writing to, and approved by, a senior immigration officer.
More specifically, the basic question is — on what grounds can the visa officer exercise his discretion in forming the opinion that there are "good rea sons" why the number of units awarded do not reflect adequately the chances of an immigrant becoming "successfully established" in Canada? It is inconceivable that this was intended to give a visa officer an unlimited mandate to decide wheth er a particular immigrant is generally suitable or not as a future member of Canadian society, given the existence of other, extensive, provisions in the Act for identifying those who are suitable or unsuitable. It may first be observed that subsection 11(3) cannot be taken to overlap the grounds of mandatory exclusion set out in the description of the "inadmissible classes" found in section 19. Indeed that section has its own provision, subsec tion 19(3), for temporary exceptions to be made by a "senior immigration officer or an adjudicator" to those exclusionary rules. Instead the discretion provided to a visa officer in subsection 11(3) of the Regulations must be seen as integral to the exer cise by the Governor in Council of his regulation- making authority under paragraph 114(1)(a) of the Act to establish selection standards (the source of the "point system" or "units of assessment").
That paragraph authorizes the Governor in Coun cil to make regulations:
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(a) providing for the establishment and application of selec tion standards based on such factors as family relationships, education, language, skill, occupational experience and other personal attributes and attainments, together with demo graphic considerations and labour market conditions in Canada, for the purpose of determining whether or not an immigrant will be able to become successfully established in Canada.
The selection standards so adopted and applicable to the applicant by paragraph 8(1)(a) and sub- paragraph 9(1)(b)(i) of the Regulations are found in Column I, Schedule I of those Regulations. The factors identified in Column I are: "Education", "Specific Vocational Preparation", "Experience", "Occupational Demand", "Arranged Employment or Designated Occupation", "Demographic Fac tor", "Age", "Knowledge of English and French Languages", "Personal Suitability", and "Rela- tive". While it is nowhere clearly spelled out, the selection standards authorized for use by para graph 114(1)(a) of the Act, and the actual factors identified in Schedule I of the Regulations, appear to be essentially related to the ability of an immi grant to make a living in Canada or to be economi cally sustained other than by the State. Of the factors in Column I there might be some ambigui ty about "Knowledge of English and French Lan guages", although such knowledge apart from being socially important is obviously very impor tant for the making of a living. The criteria for assessing points for "Age" obviously give a prefer ence to those in their prime working years. The factor of "Personal Suitability", while seemingly ambiguous, according to the criteria set out in Column II authorizes the awarding of units:
9. Personal suitability ... to reflect the personal suitability of the person and his dependants to become successfully estab lished in Canada based on the person's adaptability, motiva tion, initiative, resourcefulness and other similar qualities.
These enumerated criteria of personal suitability, while not wholly irrelevant to social success, seem primarily related to the ability to support oneself. The term "and other similar qualities" should, I think, be read ejusdem generis with the enumer ated criteria which precede it.
Given this emphasis on economic factors as identified by both Parliament and the Governor in Council for determining whether an immigrant can become "successfully established" in Canada, it is difficult to read the discretionary power grant ed to a visa officer by subsection 11(3) of the Regulations as allowing him to ignore the number of units of assessment and to determine, for essen tially non-economic reasons, that an immigrant does not have a chance of becoming successfully established in Canada. While the subsection only requires that the visa officer have "good reasons", those reasons must be such as lead him to believe that the immigrant cannot become successfully established in the economic sense. They do not include such reasons as that an immigrant will probably not be a good neighbour, a good resident, or ultimately a good citizen of Canada; or that the immigrant is a bad or immoral person if judged on his past conduct. Section 19 excludes persons in carefully specified situations on the basis of their past conduct or their potential for criminality or sedition. If they are to be excluded for such rea sons, it must be done under the process contem plated by section 19 and not through a visa officer exercising his discretion under subsection 11(3) of the Regulations because he feels that a particular immigrant is undesirable. Presumably the security check which is regarded as a pre-condition for admission is intended to facilitate the application of the criteria in provisions such as paragraphs 19(1)(c)-(g) or 19(2)(a) and (b), just as the medi cal examinations assist in the application of para graph 19(1)(a). The security check results in this case had not even been received by the Consulate when Mr. Spunt rendered his decision.
The decision in question as purportedly made under subsection 11(3) is flawed for other reasons. That subsection requires that prior to the exercise of such discretion a visa officer must submit his reasons in writing to a senior immigration officer who must approve them. This Mr. Spunt purport ed to do in his memorandum of January 26, 1989 to Mr. Nauman. But the reasons submitted by him in that memorandum for a negative exercise of discretion are invalid as unrelated to the purposes of subsection 11(3).
The first reason he gives is that Mr. Chen lied at the interview with him. Apart from the unfairness of that interview, which I have dealt with above, for the reasons which I have set out as to the nature of permissible criteria for judging success ful establishment I do not consider that lying to a visa officer is per se proof of inability to become suitably established. There is little doubt that what Mr. Chen did was wrong but Mr. Spunt in no way demonstrated to a senior immigration officer how this shortcoming would prevent Mr. Chen from making a living in Canada or cause him to become a burden to the Canadian State.
A second reason given for the exercise of discre tion was that, in the view of Mr. Spunt, the applicant "may have committed an offence" against the Immigration Act and an offence under subparagraph 121(1)(a)(i) of the Criminal Code [R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46] (dealing with attempted bribery of government officials). Again, this is not a proper reason for the negative exercise of discre tion under subsection 11(3). As I have said before, section 19 of the Immigration Act specifically precludes certain people, carefully defined, who have in the past committed, or are likely in the future to commit, certain kinds of serious crimes. I do not accept that visa officers can under subsec tion 11(3), whether in the name of "personal suitability" or otherwise, add at will to the prohib ited categories of past or future malefactors. Fur thermore, it is not acceptable on grounds of fair ness for a visa officer to - make such determinations of guilt.
The third reason given by Mr. Spunt to Mr. Nauman for the exercise of discretion was that the applicant
... has displayed personal suitability which is incompatible with what is required for an immigrant in his category.
This raises difficult questions as to the relationship between an assessment made in accordance with sections 8 and 9 and Schedule I, and a finding under subsection 11(3) that such an assessment of units should not be determinative of whether a person can become successfully established. If the unit assessment is wrong, then the visa officer should change that assessment. In this case Mr. Spunt reviewed the assessment of "personal suita bility" made by Ms. Trillo as 7 units out of 10 and he confirmed it. I fail to see how he can then offer as a reason for a negative exercise of discretion that the applicant does not have a sufficient degree of personal suitability. It is conceivable that the discretionary power under subsection 11(3) could properly be used where an immigrant was so lack ing in one of the factors listed in Column I that a 0 rating would not adequately reflect the negative impact of that deficiency on his ability to become successfully established. But it appears to me that a pre-condition for exercising the discretion on that ground would be to rate that factor at 0 in the assessment.
The discretionary power in subsection 11(3) is an extraordinary one which, it has been held, must be exercised in strict conformity with the require ment of submitting written reasons to a senior immigration officer and getting his approval. 3 I have no doubt this means that the reasons given for such exercise of discretion must be the real reasons, and must be lawful reasons which these were not.
3 Zeng v. Canada (Minister of Employment & Immigration) (1991), 12 1mm. L.R. (2d) 167 (F.C.A.); Uy v. Canada (Min- ister of Employment and Immigration), [1991] 2 F.C. 201 (C.A.).
The applicant also put some reliance on the doctrine of "legitimate expectations", said to be based on statements allegedly made by Ms. Trillo at the end of the interview on September 27, 1987, and on her letter of July 12, 1988 advising the applicant that he and his wife had been "provision- ally accepted". Given my other conclusions, I need not address this issue.
Disposition
I will therefore grant the order of certiorari quashing the decision recorded in the letter from Mr. Spunt to the applicant of February 14, 1989. I will also issue an order of mandamus requiring that the respondents consider and process the application of the applicant for permanent resi dence in Canada in accordance with law; and more specifically that he be given a new interview, and that his application be determined, by a different visa officer at a different visa office in the United States most convenient for the parties.
The respondents have requested that the issue of costs be addressed after a substantive disposition of this application. I will therefore leave it to the applicant to endeavour to get agreement on an order as to costs and if this can be done it can be submitted in writing under Rule 324 [Federal Court Rules, C.R.C., c. 663]. If not, the parties can arrange for the matter to be spoken to at an appropriate time.
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